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Title: Size and type of bird toys
Post by: maxsmom on February 09, 2014, 04:09:13 AM
Hi -

Lately I have been realizing that while I have provided lots of toys that perhaps they were not the right type of toys for my birds or not enough variety.  Charlie is a chewer.  But it is pine wood and not on the thin size he chews a little but doesn't bother much...same with Max.  So larger blocks even as wide as 1/4 inch do not always interest him always (although he loves the Chunky Monkey by Oliver's Garden).  I found balsa 1/4 slats though and he goes through them daily.  He starts chewing even as I put them in the cage on a skewer.  I found some pine 1/8 wafers and those are a huge hit.  I switched some of Max's toys to thinner wood or balsa and have noticed a change as well.  So the wooden spools, beads, slats, etc that I had bought and lasted me a year lasted not because Max isn't a big chewer but because they weren't in size or type of wood he preferred.  Given they are chewing through at least 2 skewers of wood parts a day each I am trying to  mainly use toy parts rather than buy toys.  When I buy toys, they seem to do better with the toys for little birds rather than mid sized ones.  Keeping their minds occupied is an expensive endeavor....I also use paper towel and toilet paper cardboard rolls and stuff tissue paper through...also a hit (sometimes Charlie picks the roll up and shakes it at me or Max if we are getting in his space too much.  I wonder if I should be providing more mental challenge with harder toys but it seems that not too much challenge will actually discourage my birds.  I guess for now I am sticking to what they will actually use

What is your experience with the type of bird toys your birds really use?
Title: Re: Size and type of bird toys
Post by: Julie T on February 09, 2014, 12:04:50 PM
So far, it seems like Raven's favorite toys are any shreddable type. Except this one shreddable that he doesn't touch. Like your Pi's, Raven also is not interested in the wood block toy with 1/2" thick pieces. When Nancy said Chante is a real wood chewer, I was prepared to have to get more wood, but turns out he's not a big chewer at all. I can't give that toy to little Robin either, since he also only likes wood if it's much smaller than intended for his beak size. Maybe I will hang it in a different position and see if it can at least get some use!
I figure with Raven, as his personality continues to open up here, and as he gets older we'll see if his tastes change or not. So far it doesn't seem like he is super into playing with toys.

It's surprising that my mom's Princes of Wales parakeet (which is usually just kept as an aviary species), actually will pull down on a couple small plastic rings on a treat dispenser to get his treat. He is so smart and active. People often underestimate smaller species.
Anyhow, the parrots Robin and Raven don't seem too interested in smart toys... Too lazy? LOL
Title: Re: Size and type of bird toys
Post by: maxsmom on February 09, 2014, 12:43:19 PM
Try smaller, less thick wood with Raven
Title: Re: Size and type of bird toys
Post by: Dartman on February 09, 2014, 01:59:30 PM
All Pionus love the punch holes in paper game so save junk mail and like that and act like you want it and they'll sneak up and chomp away.
Think I still have a dollar bill Nerd got before I caught him that has many beak sized notches in it.
Lurch loves chewing on the empty splenda packets too and will chew them like gum and I think he cleans his beak with them plus he probably gets some sweet taste too.
Title: Re: Size and type of bird toys
Post by: E on February 10, 2014, 02:56:17 PM
Anything Eloy can destroy is/was a good toy!  :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
If I can decide, this is NOT Eloys toys, but he think so.. (He owns everything here, including me. LOL!)

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Title: Re: Size and type of bird toys
Post by: Dartman on February 10, 2014, 03:03:53 PM
But he's so HAPPY destroying your world... :biglaughing: :shades: The mouse I use has a chunk missing outa the scroll wheel from when Nerd used to love to sit on the desk drawer here, the expensive Microsoft digital joy stick I used to use has some insulation missing on the cord, and those chomped dollar bills around here somewhere, and he did chomp a few remote buttons too but not quite that badly.
They're lucky we love them that's for sure :blink: Lurch hasn't managed to destroy anything important yet but I'm sure he'll get something, plus he makes so much wind when he flies anything light goes sailing all over the floor.
Title: Re: Size and type of bird toys
Post by: Julie T on February 10, 2014, 04:06:35 PM
I agree with Dartman that Eloy's SO HAPPY destroying all of your nice things! Lol
I keep my birds off limits to most places and they're clipped so they have no choice anyway :(
My point being... that though my stuff stays in tact, they don't have quite as much "fun" as Eloy does  :)
I'd better not show Robin and Raven your pics or else they'll protest and say 'that's no fair, Eloy and other birds get to!" You know 'kids' LOL!
Title: Re: Size and type of bird toys
Post by: maxsmom on February 11, 2014, 03:34:08 AM
Yes Eloy looks to be having great fun. Good for him especially if it works for JT.

Makes me happy to be steadily buying toys parts for a skewer. Other than chewing a window sill nothing in my house has been destroyed by Charlie. Max likes my phone and remote control but he is easily diverted to a bird toy.

My tiels ruled my home. I had to do a lot of repair before I sold the house. But they didnt chew bird toys.

Seems there is a trade off.  I will stick with large orders of balsa wood. :-)
Title: Re: Size and type of bird toys
Post by: maxsmom on February 11, 2014, 03:36:54 AM
JT - What does the warning sign (with Eloy's images on it) say in the one photo?
Title: Re: Size and type of bird toys
Post by: E on February 11, 2014, 01:59:47 PM
Yes Eloy is having so much fun, but I don't!! *Crying*
Everything Eloy destroys is of course all my fault. I'm a slow learner. LOL!

The sign say: Warning! Don't open the door when Eloy is around, thanks!
On the other side it say: Don't touch me! If you do that my mom will bite you! (yes I can bite too, LOL!)
Outside another sign that say: Warning! Inside here is a playful and free-flying parrot! Enter on your own risk. LOL!

And YES I like signs!  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Size and type of bird toys
Post by: E on February 11, 2014, 02:05:31 PM
I'd better not show Robin and Raven your pics or else they'll protest and say 'that's no fair, Eloy and other birds get to!" You know 'kids' LOL!
You know, Eloy is telepathic.  :shocking: He have already told them. Just wait and see.  :icon_mrgreen:  :wink1:
Title: Re: Size and type of bird toys
Post by: maxsmom on February 11, 2014, 08:07:31 PM
I love your signs! Great idea.
Title: Re: Size and type of bird toys
Post by: momazon on February 11, 2014, 11:43:22 PM
Now I feel better about Dobby's pranks, lol! Maybe boy Maxis are alike.  I love he signs, too :)
Title: Re: Size and type of bird toys
Post by: maxsmom on October 06, 2014, 12:27:28 AM


Makes me happy to be steadily buying toys parts for a skewer. Other than chewing a window sill nothing in my house has been destroyed by Charlie. Max likes my phone and remote control but he is easily diverted to a bird toy.


Wow has life  changed.... Charlie chews everything. Everything....I mean everything....frames of paintings, coating off wiring (dead wiring ), wood work for my fireplace mantel, doors, moulding, window  sills.....he has lots of toys...he destroys them most days ....still he  chews everything  in sight in my home. He is sneaky about it......I try to stay on top of the situation  and watch him. I have been bird proofing my home especially with live wires....I put duct tape over 6 feet of wiring and he chewed away duct tape...can't  be careful enough....gosh
Title: Re: Size and type of bird toys
Post by: Dartman on October 06, 2014, 06:57:29 PM
Nerd loved chewing the ac wires to a old sewing lamp that we used yo hold his heat ceramic stone thing. We gave up and it became his chew toy and heater holder.
Lurch will chew on the wool army blankets on both recliners in the living room he likes to sit on but luckily so far he can't reach the wires to that same ceramic heater we use for him during the winter.
He hasn't been able to chew through the blankets but sure enjoys trying and cleaning his beak or showing what a rough tough motorcycle rider he is :biglaughing:
Title: Re: Size and type of bird toys
Post by: Julie T on October 06, 2014, 08:21:14 PM
I'd better not show Robin and Raven your pics or else they'll protest and say 'that's no fair, Eloy and other birds get to!" You know 'kids' LOL!
You know, Eloy is telepathic.  :shocking: He have already told them. Just wait and see.  :icon_mrgreen:  :wink1:

LOL, you know, I only saw this reply today, and it was posted in February! I wasn't ignoring you haha.

I also said here that Raven isn't much into playing with toys... Now almost 8 months later and there is hardly a toy that he won't play with!! He and Griffin can't get enough of their toys, and they like ALL types. Raven isn't good at smart toys though. He will give up.

I think Raven's choice in toys is also influenced by his buddy Griffin the Ruppell's. He's much more assertive, outgoing, and active than Raven is, and between the two friends, I think Griffin is the leader, although he's younger and smaller LOL!
Griffin loves to chew wood block toys 1/2" thick and much bigger than you'd think he'd like for his size. He's a real little wood chipper. It was only then after seeing that, that Raven decided he liked wood blocks too! Raven was never interested in puzzle toys at all, until he saw Griffin working with one. Raven now tries for a few minutes before giving up, but so far has not been successful getting the bead out of it like Griffin can do within minutes haha. I can't believe how fast Griffin destroys toys. My other Poi is nothing like him. He's much more sedate.

Anyway, I think it's hilarious how Raven is getting influenced by his little friend, and has to try everything that he does!  :biglaughing:




Title: Re: Size and type of bird toys
Post by: E on October 07, 2014, 01:34:24 AM
So sorry Maxsmom! They are like small little beavers aren't they?  :busted2:

Julie, so happy to hear that! ♥ I believe that they play a lot if the are happy and healthy.
Title: Re: Size and type of bird toys
Post by: maxsmom on October 07, 2014, 10:18:44 PM
That is funny, Julie, especially  given Griffin is a baby! How old is Griffen? 6 months? But glad I am not only one reversing a post! Nice to read old posts and compare to present behavior. My birds don't seem to do well with harder foraging toys

JT- I am going to have to get a carpenter to do repair work when I move, hopefully that is no time soon. Charlie walks around seemingly bored looking for more toys as he considers everything in house a toy.....apparently all of the actual bird toys I rotate on a daily basis because he destroys them are not enough. But I adored him.

Eloy seems to do his own damage too! But why have a pet if can't spoil him!!@@###???
Title: Re: Size and type of bird toys
Post by: Julie T on October 08, 2014, 09:46:51 AM
Griffin is "exactly" 7 months old today  :).
I know, it's hilarious with Raven. I think he secretly 'looks up to' little Griffin haha. He does follow his lead with most everything. He even lets Griffin invade his cage and food and push him out of the way in his own home! :shocking:. He doesn't even mind if the budgie comes over to play and eat lol. He is SO passive with other birds!
Title: Re: Size and type of bird toys
Post by: maxsmom on October 09, 2014, 04:00:30 AM
Well that is good to extent that Raven gets along with others
Title: Re: Size and type of bird toys
Post by: Julie T on October 09, 2014, 06:32:19 PM
I love how Raven is opening up to trying new toys because of Griffin, but today Raven was a very bad boy  :(.
Griffin LOVES to be bad and climb down Raven's cage into the space underneath the grate. There is about an 8" (?) space between the newspaper and the underside of the grate. He knows it is not allowed, but does it as often as he could get away with it. He also goes on the floor, which is dangerous being small and gray.

So... By now Raven has seen these 'forbidden' things that Griffin does. Yesterday he decided to try climbing down to the floor, and today he snuck under the grate!!  :shocking:. When I see it starting to happen, I'll show them a safflower seed and they'll follow my hand up the cage where they belong. Or if they turn around and go up on their own they'll get a seed. Otherwise it's a time out.
Title: Re: Size and type of bird toys
Post by: maxsmom on October 09, 2014, 08:33:48 PM
Good positive reinforcement  on your part
Title: Re: Size and type of bird toys
Post by: Julie T on October 09, 2014, 10:08:10 PM
Thanks  :) We've been working on it, and Raven responds pretty well. Of course a safflower seed is irresistible afterall!
Title: Re: Size and type of bird toys
Post by: Cetan on October 11, 2014, 09:13:16 AM
Raven is now showing that he too is a Pionus beaver hybrid like Chante  :biglaughing:  I have a bunch of Expandable Habitat skewers and just buy wood blocks and slats to string up safe toys for him to chip up, he has about 4 at any given time plus a few toys that he likes in his cage. That is how I discovered he likes almonds in the shell  so much a few years ago, I bought a few pounds after Christmas when the stores had them on clearance thinking that they would be good chew toys for him if he didnt eat them.
Title: Re: Size and type of bird toys
Post by: Julie T on October 11, 2014, 03:45:41 PM
Yes, Raven has discovered a love for wood, but I don't think he is quite as much beaver as Chante from what you say lol!  :icon_mrgreen: I'm just glad he's "trying" to keep up with Griffin lol. Keeps him from becoming a perch potato Pi  :icon_mrgreen:

It's little Griffin who is really part beaver or cockatoo or something! Ruppell's parrot, he's about Senegal sized or a little smaller and will completely destroy an Amazon size wood toy within days.  :shocking: He's also constantly on the move looking for something to chew or swing on or play with. I call him "busy beak". I wasn't prepared for that since my other Poi is nothing like that.